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these months of doing nothing, sided with the $4 trillion a solution, the big solution, which includes tax reform and dealing with entitlements. maybe i'm whistling past the graveyard, but for the first time i feel a tiny bit of hope they can get this done. >> did we hear a suggestion from speaker boehner earlier this week that possibly, they might consider an increase in tax revenues? >> if you were to means test social security, for example, not a crazy idea, but it is a tax increase -- >> it is not a tax increase, it is a reduction of benefits. >> obama, as far as i can tell, has basically, and so far, thrown in the towel. he says he wants to have some loopholes close, but that unsystemic revenue increase does not get you very far. the question that is where you got? -- where do you cut? you have to cut everywhere, especially in science, especially defense, but you also have tax increases -- especially entitlements, especially defense, but you also have to have tax increases. >> that is not true. obama, as i understand it, has presented a range of options brought the little group decide
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